{"id":6796,"date":"2026-06-01T02:16:02","date_gmt":"2026-06-01T02:16:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/beta.salamzaban.com\/?p=6796"},"modified":"2026-06-01T02:16:02","modified_gmt":"2026-06-01T02:16:02","slug":"tony-benn-the-importance-of-democracy-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/salamzaban.com\/conversation\/tony-benn-the-importance-of-democracy-3\/","title":{"rendered":"\u062a\u0648\u0646\u06cc \u0628\u0646: \u0627\u0647\u0645\u06cc\u062a \u062f\u0645\u0648\u06a9\u0631\u0627\u0633\u06cc 3"},"content":{"rendered":"

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\"Tony<\/p>\n

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Tony Benn: ‘The Importance of Democracy’ (3)<\/h3>\n

Another way would be to have a looser, wider Europe. I have an idea for a Commonwealth<\/strong> of Europe. I am introducing a bill on the subject. Europe would be rather like the British Common-wealth. We would work by consent with people. Or we could accept this ghastly<\/strong> proposal, which is clumsy<\/strong>, secretive, centralized, bureaucratic <\/strong>and divisive<\/strong>. That is how I regard the Treaty of Rome. I was born a European and I will die one. But I have never put my alliance<\/strong> behind the Treaty of Rome. I object to it. I hate being called an anti-European. How can one be anti-European when one is born in Europe? It is like saying that one is anti-British if one does not agree with the Chancellor of the Exchequer.<\/p>\n

What a lot of nonsense it is. I ask myself why the House is ready to contemplate abandon<\/strong>ing its duties, as I fear that it is. I was elected forty-one years ago this month. This Chamber has lost confidence in democracy. It believes that it must be governed by someone else. It is afraid to use the powers entrusted to it by its constituents.<\/p>\n

It has traded power for status. One gets asked to go on the telly<\/strong> if one is a Member of Parliament. The Chamber does not want to use its power. It has accepted the role of a spectator and joined what Bagehot called the dignif<\/strong>ied part of the constitution, leaving the Crown, under the control of the Prime Minister, to be the Executive part. If democracy is destroyed in Britain it will be not the communists, Trotskyists or subversive<\/strong>s but this House which threw it away. The rights that are entrusted to us are not for us to give away.<\/p>\n

Even if I agree with everything that is proposed, I cannot hand away<\/strong> powers lent to me for five years by the people of Chesterfield. I just could not do it. It would be theft of public rights. Therefore, there is only one answer. If people are determined to submit themselves to Jacques Delors, Madame Papandreou and the Council of Ministers, we must tell the people what is planned. If people vote for that, they will all have capitulat<\/strong>ed. Julius Caesar said, ‘We are just merg<\/strong>ing our sovereignty<\/strong>.’ So did William the Conqueror.<\/p>\n

It is not possible to support the Government’s motion<\/strong>. I have told the Chief Whip that I cannot support the Labour motion. I invite the House to vote against the Government’s motion and not to support a motion which purports to take us faster into a Community which cannot reflect the aspiration<\/strong>s of those who put us here. That is not a nationalist argument nor is it about sovereignty. It is a democratic argument and it should be decisive in a democratic Chamber.<\/p>\n

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Commonwealth noun
\n( also British Commonwealth especially old use ) , Commonwealth of Nations formal an organization of about 50 independent countries, most of which were formerly part of the British Empire, established in order to encourage trade and friendly relations among its members. The British Queen is the head of the Commonwealth, and there is a meeting each year for all its heads of government.
\na member of the Commonwealth
\nCommonwealth countries<\/p>\n

ghastly
\nvery bad or unpleasant SYN horrible :<\/p>\n

a ghastly little hotel
\nThe whole thing was a ghastly mistake.
\nThe weather was ghastly.
\nThe weather was ghastly.
\nIt’s all been a ghastly mistake.
\nWhen she mentioned redundancies, for one ghastly moment, I thought she meant me.<\/p>\n

clumsy
\nadjective
\na clumsy action or statement is said or done carelessly or badly, and likely to upset someone :
\nDavid made a clumsy attempt to comfort us.<\/p>\n

another source
\nawkward; too complicated to understand or use easily
\nThe complaints procedure is clumsy and time-consuming.<\/p>\n

bureaucratic adjective
\ninvolving a lot of complicated official rules and processes<\/p>\n

The report revealed a great deal of bureaucratic inefficiency.
\ncentralized bureaucratic administration<\/p>\n

divisive adjective
\ncausing a lot of disagreement between people :<\/p>\n

The strike was a divisive issue in the community.
\nsocially\/economically\/politically etc divisive
\nsocially divisive policies
\nHe believes that unemployment is socially divisive.<\/p>\n

alliance noun
\na group of two or more countries, groups etc who work together to achieve something :<\/p>\n

independent organizations and alliances
\nThe Green Alliance was formed to campaign against environmental damage.<\/p>\n

contemplate verb
\nto think about something that you might do in the future SYN consider :<\/p>\n

He had even contemplated suicide.
\ncontemplate doing something
\nDid you ever contemplate resigning?
\nYou’re too young to be contemplating retirement.
\nI have never contemplated living abroad.
\nHe continued while she contemplated how to answer.<\/p>\n

Abandon verb
\nto stop doing something because there are too many problems and it is impossible to continue :<\/p>\n

The game had to be abandoned due to bad weather.
\nThey abandoned their attempt to recapture the castle.
\nBecause of the fog they abandoned their idea of driving.
\nDaylight’s wasting, so finally we abandon the effort.
\nBut a 1962 discovery forced researchers to abandon the idea that the Vikings had only one kind of ship.
\nThe major labels seem to be willing to abandon digital rights management.
\nThey abandoned the match because of rain.
\nShe abandoned hope of any reconciliation.
\nWe had to abandon any further attempt at negotiation.
\nAnomalies and counterexamples could be found that lead scientists to abandon that theory and search for another.
\nMany say they’ll have to sell or abandon their properties.<\/p>\n

Telly <\/strong>noun British English informal
\ntelevision<\/p>\n

on telly
\nIs there anything good on telly tonight?
\nHe spends most evenings just sitting in front of the telly.
\ndaytime telly
\nIs there anything good on telly?
\nI don’t want to watch telly.<\/p>\n

Dignify <\/strong>verb
\nto make something or someone seem better or more important than they really are, especially by using a particular word to describe them<\/p>\n

dignify somebody\/something with something
\nI cannot dignify him with the name \u2018physician\u2019.
\nThe mayor was there to dignify the celebrations.<\/p>\n

Subversive<\/strong>\u00a0 adjective
\nsubversive ideas, activities etc are secret and intended to damage or destroy a government or an established system :<\/p>\n

He was engaged in subversive activities .
\nsubversive propaganda\/literature
\nsubversive activities<\/p>\n

hand away<\/strong><\/p>\n

Capitulate <\/strong>verb
\nto accept or agree to something that you have been opposing for a long time SYN give in :
\nHelen finally capitulated and let her son have a car.<\/p>\n

They were finally forced to capitulate to the terrorists’ demands.
\nYou must capitulate, surrender, jump in and go with the flow.
\nMarket bottoms don’t typically occur until panic surges and investors capitulate en masse.
\nThe fact that you talk doesn’t mean that you capitulate, it doesn’t mean that you don’t negotiate hard.
\nCertainly the present holders of economic power are not going to capitulate until they are faced with overwhelming odds.
\nIf she can’t get me to capitulate with claims of impending heart attacks, she’ll call my dad and freak him out.
\nDenmark should not capitulate to fear.
\nThe challenge is in how to get him to capitulate to your plan without thinking (much) less of you.<\/p>\n

Merge<\/strong> verb
\n1 <\/strong>[ intransitive and transitive ] to combine, or to join things together to form one thing<\/p>\n

merge with<\/p>\n

The bank announced that it was to merge with another of the high street banks.
\nThe company plans to merge its subsidiaries in the US.
\nmerge something into something <\/strong>
\nproposals to merge the three existing health authorities into one
\nmerge together <\/strong>
\nThe villages have grown and merged together over the years.
\n2 [ intransitive ] if two things merge, or if one thing merges into another, you cannot clearly see them, hear them etc as separate things<\/p>\n

merge into
\nShe avoided reporters at the airport by merging into the crowds.
\nmerge with <\/strong>
\nMemories seemed to merge with reality.<\/p>\n

The banks are set to merge next year.
\nThe two groups have merged to form a new party.
\nHis department will merge with mine.
\nThe villages expanded and merged into one large town.
\nFact and fiction merge together in his latest thriller.
\nHis department will be merged with mine.
\nThe company was formed by merging three smaller firms.<\/p>\n

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Motion\u00a0 noun
\na proposal that is made formally at a meeting, and then is usually decided on by voting :<\/p>\n

The motion was defeated by 201 votes to 159.
\nmotion to do something\/motion that
\nWe will now vote on the motion that membership charges should rise by 15%.
\npass\/carry\/approve a motion (= accept it by voting )
\nThe motion was carried unanimously.
\nI urge you to support this motion .
\npropose\/put forward\/table a motion (= make a proposal )
\nI\u2019d like to propose a motion to move the weekly meetings to Thursdays.
\nThe motion was seconded (= formally supported ) by Mr. Levin.
\nThe attorneys filed a motion (= made a proposal in a court ) for a temporary restraining order.<\/p>\n

Aspiration\u00a0 <\/strong>noun
\na strong desire to have or achieve something SYN ambition :<\/p>\n

a high level of political aspiration
\naspiration of <\/strong>
\nthe aspirations of the working classes
\naspiration for <\/strong>
\ntheir hopes and aspirations for the future<\/p>\n

He has never had any aspiration to earn a lot of money.
\nWhat changes are needed to meet women’s aspirations for employment?
\ndid he have presidential aspirations?
\nbut then its aspirations all went horribly wrong.
\ntoday its atmosphere is more convivial, its aspirations more leisurely.
\nThis aspiration is immediately clear from the outset of his new book.
\nIt is a goal, an aspiration, but totally incoherent as a definition.
\nOur aspiration is to double in size and become a trillion-dollar company.
\nIn the morning of life I knew aspiration and saw glory.
\nSo practicing law, while a dream, had not been an aspiration.
\nViolence is not the answer to people’s legitimate aspirations.
\nIndeed, the address was long on aspiration but short on details.
\nThe democratic aspiration is no mere recent phase in human history.
\nTough gears to switch, but a respectable aspiration.
\nThey are about individual endeavor and about national aspiration.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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